Boks to camp out in New Zealand

Instead of returning to South Africa after the All Blacks Test this weekend, the 36-man Bok touring squad will hold a camp in New Zealand before heading to Argentina to face the Pumas.

SA Rugby’s Director of Rugby, Rassie Erasmus, lauded a number of players for superb individual performances in the Springboks’ 35-17 win over Australia in Johannesburg, but said the team will have to improve as they build towards the Rugby World Cup.

The Boks scored five tries to two, with Herschel Jantjies (scrumhalf) grabbing two on debut as South Africa recorded a full-house of five Rugby Championship log points at Ellis Park.

Lood de Jager (lock), Sbu Nkosi (right wing) and Cobus Reinach (replacement scrumhalf) also scored tries, while Elton Jantjies (flyhalf) converted all five tries.

“A few guys certainly put their hands up for Rugby World Cup selection and although there was some rustiness and all our combinations weren’t settled, we are still happy with the win,” said Erasmus.

“At times we were frustrated with how things went, and we were also lucky as they had a try disallowed for a forward pass and lost the ball over the line.

“The same happened in some Tests last year – some you win, some you lose, but we’ll take it and say ‘thanks’, but we’re under no illusions that this was far from a world class performance. So the biggest positive from the Test was probably individual performances.

“From a team performance perspective, this isn’t how we want to play, quality wise, and we’re aware of that. They had our number in the air and we’ll have to look at that, there are a lot of areas we can improve on.”

Erasmus lauded the performances of Jantjies.

“I think Herschel showed that he is comfortable at this level, if you consider that he only really made his mark at Vodacom Super Rugby level this year,” said Erasmus.

“Cobus also did very well when he came on. But things can change quickly with injuries and loss of form, so it’s good to have depth.

“Last year Embrose Papier and Ivan van Zyl did very well at stages, while we also have Faf (de Klerk) and Louis Schreuder, so it’s good to have all these options available. Now we have to consolidate and make sure we get the right 9s to the Rugby World Cup.”

“We are not returning to South Africa after the Test in Wellington and will remain in New Zealand for a camp before we go to Argentina to face the Pumas.

“But before that, we need to shift our focus to the All Blacks. They also left a few players at home and will be fresh and ready for us.

“It was difficult to select this team as we didn’t want to show any disrespect to Australia, but this weekend we are playing the top side in the world, so we amended our travel plans as we would like to be as fresh as possible over there, otherwise we won’t stand a chance.

“This is a massively important match – the last three Tests between us and them have been very close and could have gone either way, but they are playing at home and will be ready for us.

Erasmus has confirmed a touring squad of 36 players which saw Eben Etzebeth, Jesse Kriel, Pieter-Steph du Toit, Rynhardt Elstadt, Trevor Nyakane, Elton Jantjies, Herschel Jantjies, Bongi Mbonambi and the coaching staff jetting out of Johannesburg soon after the victory over on Saturday night to join an advance party of 14 players who left on Thursday.

Marcell Coetzee, Francois Louw, Lood de Jager, Tendai Mtawarira, Schalk Brits, Cobus Reinach, Sbu Nkosi, Makazole Mapimpi, Frans Steyn and Vincent Koch left on Sunday evening, leaving Erasmus with 22 players on the field for an afternoon training session in Wellington today.

Lizo Gqoboka, Warrick Gelant, Marvin Orie and Andre Esterhuizen, will be joining the Springboks in New Zealand during the next few days, while Marco van Staden and Dillyn Leyds have been released to their provinces until the Springboks returns from their tour.

The Springboks play New Zealand in Wellington on Saturday before travelling to Argentina to meet the Pumas in Salta on 10 August.

The full tour squad is:
Forwards (21): Schalk Brits (Vodacom Bulls), Marcell Coetzee (Ulster, Ireland), Lood de Jager (Vodacom Bulls), Thomas du Toit (Cell C Sharks), Pieter-Steph du Toit (DHL Stormers), Rynhardt Elstadt (Toulouse, France), Eben Etzebeth (DHL Stormers), Lizo Gqoboka (Vodacom Bulls), Steven Kitshoff (DHL Stormers), Vincent Koch (Saracens, England), Francois Louw (Bath, England), Frans Malherbe (DHL Stormers), Malcolm Marx (Emirates Lions), Bongi Mbonambi (DHL Stormers), Tendai Mtawarira (Cell C Sharks), Franco Mostert (Gloucester, England), Trevor Nyakane (Vodacom Bulls), Marvin Orie (Emirates Lions), Kwagga Smith (Emirates Lions), RG Snyman (Vodacom Bulls), Duane Vermeulen (Vodacom Bulls).

Backs (15): Lukhanyo Am (Cell C Sharks), Damian de Allende (DHL Stormers), Faf de Klerk (Sale Sharks, England), Andre Esterhuizen (Cell C Sharks), Warrick Gelant (Vodacom Bulls), Elton Jantjies (Emirates Lions), Herschel Jantjies (DHL Stormers), Cheslin Kolbe (Toulouse, France), Jesse Kriel (Vodacom Bulls), Makazole Mapimpi (Cell C Sharks), Sbu Nkosi (Cell C Sharks), Willie le Roux (Toyota Verblitz, Japan), Handré Pollard (Vodacom Bulls), Cobus Reinach (Northampton Saints, England), Frans Steyn (Montpellier, France).

- Tank Lanning

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  • Redge

    So far so good Rassie and well done Boks. Fantastic debut from Jantjies and Lood was on form after being out for a while. I belief Frans will be the perfect 12 with Am at 13. Etsebeth done well as well as the rest of the pack. Bongi still struggles a bit with his throw ins. Possible loosies against NZ Vermeulen, PSDT with either Kwagga or Coetzee at 6? Looks like Snyman and Mostert will start with Eben on the bench. Will be hard to leave Jantjies out as a reserve for Faf but maybe Reinach will be a better reserve due to his experience. I was lucky enough to have been in Wellington last year to witness a fantastic game and I will be there Saturday as well. Go Bokke!

  • John Comyn

    So we must assume that the 8 who left on Sunday will be in the match day squad and play off the bench as replacements. So who will be the captain on the day? Duane I guess. Is Rassie really going to go into a test against the AB’s without PSDT in the starting lineup?

    • Jay

      If he is not I can only think it is due to managing his game time before the WC.

  • Nick

    Kitshoff, Marx, malherbe, snyman, mostert, ……..quagga, vermeulen, faf, pollard, deallende, ………colbe, leroux. Based on who flew to nz first, these players to start? I would expect that to be the plan.
    Need one loose fwd and one wing from the Aussie test, plus 8 bench players. Maybe quagga will play off the bench to come into the game later?

    • Dean Bright

      I think Etzebeth, Louw and PS will start. I can’t see him leaving out the SA rugby player of the year for one of the biggest Test matches. I think RG and Kwagga will play from the bench. The other wing will probably be Nkosi.

  • Nick

    From the outside this looks to me like the kind of selection problem coaches love to have. Imo squad is well selected and strong. Luckily no injuries at all.

  • John Comyn

    Is AM injured ? Wondering why you have a gap at 13.

  • Nick

    My error. Thanks. Am would partner deallende

  • Barry

    A great win, allowing for a positive vibe for the remainder of the tour. It would have been a huge blow to start with a loss!

    Some surprising performances – Louw was better than he’s been for a long time and young Jantjies was outstanding.

    Much to ponder though – if the two tries that the Aussies fluffed were successful, it could have been another story entirely!

    Hooker remains an issue in my books. Bongi’ s throwing a major concern still, whilst Britz throws well, but was bossed and turned over how many times!

    Also not overly convinced by Galant. Sorry to see Leyds being sent back to Province, with out a full chance!

  • Barry

    We hear that the biggest transfer fee in South African history was paid today for the services of the Du Preez twins.

    Provincialism aside gents, is it not odd that European clubs are prepared to pay R1.8 million for their services, whilst our National selectors see no benefit in their services at all! Instead they’re bringing players back from Europe?

    I do not want to detract from our success on Saturday, but there is still much wrong with our rugby!

    • Herman

      Did they get R 1.8 mill each or did they get two for the price of one, lol. Don’t worry old chap after Saturday’s result in Wellington they’ll be glad they missed the goon show Cheers.

    • Jay

      Are they not still both injured?

      • Barry

        No both short term injuries, Dan the worst, but now 5 weeks on.

        There were a number of injured players included in the squad and a few “injured not considered” the difference being those in the plan and those not!

        I remain convinced that there are blind spots in our selection processes! This would not be tolerated in New Zealand but in SA it seems not to concern!

        • Jay

          There might be a logistical issue with them moving over to Sale (similar to Serfontein when he first went over to France) or perhaps they were just not match fit ..yet. Am sure there must be a reason as Rassie has made use of them in the past and most likely knows what he has in them where a guy like Kwagga, he is still to determine if he can make the step up.

          As for them donning the England strip, under current rules they are not allowed to play for any country other than SA due to being capped in the senior side.

          • Barry

            Jay, Dan was the top no 8 in the entire Super Rugby competition this year. Surely you can see value in his inclusion in the National squad?

            Erasmus has shown Provincial biased in his selections thus far – there was huge outcry last season when most of the Stormers were selected despite being the worst team in SR.

            Nothing has changed this year and players that are smashing down doors for selection continue to be overlooked! Eventually they get the message and simply go overseas!

            As a nation, most just accept this – no questions asked – there must be a reason!

        • Dean Bright

          There’s a difference between training and being match fit. When the squad was selected they were still injured. Lood played in a Currie Cup game, 7 days after that squad was announced. Therefore he was ready to play by the time of the first RC match. Who’s place would these two take in any case? I highly doubt Rassie has written them off of ever being picked for the Springboks. They played as early as last year. This current squad gave Rassie a chance to have a look into players who were not previously picked. I think it’s a masterstroke, he’s essentially expanded his squad of potential WC players to about 42. His aim was to have a pecking order of 3 players in each position and he has pretty much done that in less than 2 years. It’s quite brilliant if you think about it.

          • Dean Bright

            I’m glad you brought New Zealand into this debate because they just picked Sonny Bill Williams who has shown NO FORM and very little game time the entire season. I wonder why that is, oh wait…that’s right…he’s a classy player and integral to the way they want to play. Same can be said for Willie and Vermeulen. This goes back to the old days when everybody knew who was the incumbent for every position in the Bok team. Players were virtually undroppable unless they were injured or unfit.

          • Barry

            When the squad was selected, Lood, Beast, PSDT, Etzabeth and Kolisi were also still injured. None of them were match fit either, were they? Pretty much negates your point!

            Lood was played at Provincial level because he had not played for four months – he was coming off a very long term injury!

            The others, including the Du Preez were all short term injuries.

            As I suggested to John, you can either shove your head in the sand with Provincial glasses firmly in place, or you can have a look around at the facts and form a realistic decision!

            In New Zealand, this would be under huge scrutiny in SA the vibe is “They’re not from my Province so who cares”

        • John Comyn

          Barry, please explain what the value is in selecting the twins if they are not available for the Rugby Challenge due to injury??? Who are the injured players you are alluding to other than Kolisi? The players coming back from injury were ready to start – PSDT, Herschel, Etzebeth, Beast etc etc etc. So effectively if the Du Preez’s are still out for another 3 weeks are you suggesting Rassie should take them along for the ride? Flo was in there to replace Dan – no conspiracy theory in that!

          • Barry

            John read the Sale Sharks site. The Du Preez brother kick off with pre season in 7 days time. They are available.

            Flow has always been part of the mix, so no he’s not a replacement for Dan Du Preez.

            You can either bury your head in the sand and pretend all is well or you can objectively look at circumstance and fact that surround you. I prefer the later!

            The reality is that English clubs are willing to fork out huge money to secure their transfer and our selectors are happy to wave good bye.

            It’s an outrage, John. I wonder if we don’t see these guys in English strip at the next World Cup, because SA have made it quite clear they have no interest!

  • Dean Bright

    Barry, you talking crap now. The squad has 6 Stormers, 9 Bulls, 4 Lions and 7 Sharks. 10 overseas players. You a typical politician, making up stories because you didn’t get your way. Seriously, just because your one player didn’t get selected now the coaching staff is provincially bias, anti-du Preez brothers and the selectors don’t know how to do their job. LOL and you do? Go to the moon where you belong man.

  • Barry

    What are you, about 12 years old Dean? You can’t have a discussion without being rude or calling people names?

    I see you are still battling with your counting – there are 9 Stormers in the mix (one injured) not 6. There are five Sharks not 7. See that’s the problem Dean you shoot from the hip without properly considering the facts!

    Regardless of the Provincial mix, Dan Du Preez had the best No 8 performance stats of the entire SR competition- that includes New Zealand, Australia and Argentina! What more does he have to do to get recognition? Instead we see players like Elstadt included out of the blue and look how that went – highest missed tackle count on the day, hardly any gain and no pilfering!!

    These are facts Dean not politics, the problem is you don’t have any answers for them!

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